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  1. Molotov

    Your style is perfect. Do what you need to in order to make the story live for us. I actually like the trope of downloading memories, but not a whole person. Ever seen The Final Cut? Robin Williams? I like that take on the whole deal. And as for the differences in us and “kids today,” I think my youngest said it best when he came to me with this gem: “If I had a dollar for every time you grown ups complained about my generation, I could afford to buy a house in the economy you destroyed for us.”

    • Jason Clarke

      ah, well thanks, but i disagree. when you start thinking what you’re doing is ‘perfect’, there’s no room for improvement. and there’s always room for that.

      i haven’t seen that one. and memories are different than downloading your ‘self’. strange days was all about memory playback, as was brainstorm. and those made for interesting story devices.

      and yeah, that’s funny. but it goes to the point, we aren’t responsible for everything our generation did and neither are millennials. i certainly wasn’t in charge of anything high finance.

  2. edvard

    Haha… “intensive porpoises”, “gosh being the dad of jeez”… I have to say, your subtle but sharp sense of humor is a sight to see (along with the excellent comic), thanks.
    I’ve also been bothered for some time by the “download yourself” trope, because reasons, even though my favorite video game (EVE Online) has that as a prominent plot pivot. How in the name of video game not-so-realism do you keep coming back after you die? BINGO! A clone that gets fed all your memories as you go about your spaceship-y business and gets activated after you’re blasted into the cold void of the interstellar.
    If you’re so inclined, the short film “The Final Moments of Karl Brant” about the subject of downloading yourself is excellent. It’s got Paul Reubens(!), and the woman who plays the main character’s wife does the best damn “act like you’re acting badly” schtick I’ve ever seen. The end is predictable, but it’s a short film, so it gets a pass.
    I don’t mind when webcomics change styles over time, it’s just evidence of natural growth and curiosity. Check out early Gunnerkrigg Court compared to today. Thom’s sense of perspective and depth have remained fairly consistent, but his style has definitely changed.
    You keep drawing, I’ll keep reading, deal?

    • Jason Clarke

      sharp and subtle? You describe me like one talks about cheese. haha

      yeah, and that’s what I mean. it becomes a device to escape actual mortality in a game. in a narrative it can be fairly weak. I’ve never seen that short, but I’ll look it up when I get a chance. thanks!

      deal! glad you’re enjoying it.

    • Jason Clarke

      that was pretty good. the short i mean. too bad it wasn’t more than just. thanks for the recommendation!

  3. Dogma

    I always found it funny that it’s possible to interpret Star Trek as a universe in which suicide is considered a convenient method of travelling; especially given that there are transporter duplicates.

    • Jason Clarke

      that’s exactly what I mean. the transporter is really just a suicide/cloner. they broached that on the episode where there’s 2 rikers, but not in any depth where they face the fact that a pattern is a disintegrated original. meaning Picard drank the same cup of earl grey thousands of times.

      • Molotov

        I mean, just once I wish he’d slipped up and instead of “Tea. Earl Grey. Hot,” he’d have said “Earl Grey. Hot,” and Second Earl Charles Grey would be standing there in a Speedo. But I have never claimed to be normal. Now I’m gonna spend all morning wishing for a poster of that image, possibly with Q snickering behind his hand in the background. Heeeeeyyyyy…you still taking requests?! *Laughs* Happy Heart Day everyone!

        • Jason Clarke

          sounds like erotic fan fiction time. write it up! who knows, it’ll probably find a devouted audience.

  4. Brian

    In science fiction, there have been a number of stories that used the concept of uploadable memories. In one, travel was by recording your memories (soul), and beaming them to a clone. A grown clone, not a manufactured duplicate body. The plot was a variation on The Prince and the Pauper, where two souls were swapped, and a rich man was made to see what it was like for the lower classes.

    Another one had the concept that the earth was vastly overpopulated, and a person was only allowed to live until their early 20’s. At that point, you would be “recorded” and stored. You could be brought out again for a fee, into an available body. But of course the rich found a way around this completely…

    AFAIK, we are a product of the biological machine we call our brain. Memories are one thing, but the way we “work” is a product of how our neurons are individually wired. Our memories guide us and are part of us, but we can function without our memories.

    In one of the anime Ghost in the Shell episodes, the Tachikoma machines were uploading people’s memories to cloud storage, in order to “save” them. But of course, those are just memories, and only the memories in their e-brain storage. It’s not the person themselves. There is no “backup” feature for us. Like one scientist said, “a clone is not a copy.”

    • Jason Clarke

      i suppose uploadable and downloadable memory isn’t that big a leap. it’s basically the plot of total recall too. i think we’re all in agreement. we’re more than just a recording of our memories.

      i don’t remember the gits episode, but it seems likely that that is how a machine might see it. then again, that would only be the savegame, not the program.

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